Comments on: Xilinx CPLD XC9536 replacement PLA for Commodore 64 https://www.nightfallcrew.com/18/11/2009/xilink-cpld-xc9536-replacement-pla-for-commodore-64/ Lightning in the Dark Thu, 11 Apr 2024 19:18:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: e5frog https://www.nightfallcrew.com/18/11/2009/xilink-cpld-xc9536-replacement-pla-for-commodore-64/comment-page-1/#comment-52579 e5frog Thu, 02 Jul 2015 12:30:19 +0000 http://www.nightfallcrew.com/?p=2680#comment-52579 According to tests the 7ns chip and the 15ns chip behaves the same. Here's the resulting opinion: "These will only work with boards 250425 and 250466 because they have built-in RC filters on CASRAM. Boards 250407 and 326298 are NO GO with these PLAs!" I guess you need to add extra RC filters for the 250407 and 326298 boards. The XC9536XL is pin compatible but is made differently so it can't be programmed with the jed file for the obsolete XC9536 - need to get hold of author and have him/her build the project for the XL - and then consider the voltage difference as well. According to tests the 7ns chip and the 15ns chip behaves the same. Here’s the resulting opinion:
“These will only work with boards 250425 and 250466 because they have built-in RC filters on CASRAM. Boards 250407 and 326298 are NO GO with these PLAs!”

I guess you need to add extra RC filters for the 250407 and 326298 boards.
The XC9536XL is pin compatible but is made differently so it can’t be programmed with the jed file for the obsolete XC9536 – need to get hold of author and have him/her build the project for the XL – and then consider the voltage difference as well.

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By: e5frog https://www.nightfallcrew.com/18/11/2009/xilink-cpld-xc9536-replacement-pla-for-commodore-64/comment-page-1/#comment-51335 e5frog Sat, 03 Jan 2015 01:28:09 +0000 http://www.nightfallcrew.com/?p=2680#comment-51335 I ended up using a 15ns, seems to work fine, haven't tried it much, I have it as a backup if I should need it. I had no problems using the .jed file directly in ISE iMPACT and program the circuit through a cheap parallel-port adapter, well almost no problems there was a windrvr6.sys problem, TOP2004 eprom programmer needs one and ISE iMPACT needed another one - took a while to figure out. I ended up using a 15ns, seems to work fine, haven’t tried it much, I have it as a backup if I should need it.
I had no problems using the .jed file directly in ISE iMPACT and program the circuit through a cheap parallel-port adapter, well almost no problems there was a windrvr6.sys problem, TOP2004 eprom programmer needs one and ISE iMPACT needed another one – took a while to figure out.

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By: w3drk https://www.nightfallcrew.com/18/11/2009/xilink-cpld-xc9536-replacement-pla-for-commodore-64/comment-page-1/#comment-29724 w3drk Fri, 06 Jun 2014 23:29:46 +0000 http://www.nightfallcrew.com/?p=2680#comment-29724 Just tried this with a 5ns part...no go. Cartridges kind of work but are all garbled. I'm had to use ISE iMPACT to record the .jed to an xsvf file which I then programmed to the CPLD using the Xilinx XSVF player on a Beagle Bone Black. Could one of the authors comment on how they accounted for the timing variations of XC9000s that are available so maybe I could tweak the project to get it working on a 5ns part? Thanks! Just tried this with a 5ns part…no go. Cartridges kind of work but are all garbled.

I’m had to use ISE iMPACT to record the .jed to an xsvf file which I then programmed to the CPLD using the Xilinx XSVF player on a Beagle Bone Black.

Could one of the authors comment on how they accounted for the timing variations of XC9000s that are available so maybe I could tweak the project to get it working on a 5ns part?

Thanks!

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By: e5frog https://www.nightfallcrew.com/18/11/2009/xilink-cpld-xc9536-replacement-pla-for-commodore-64/comment-page-1/#comment-18255 e5frog Sun, 27 Oct 2013 18:08:21 +0000 http://www.nightfallcrew.com/?p=2680#comment-18255 I wonder if the speed of the xc9536 is important, pictured is the 7.5ns version, will a 5ns, 10ns or 15ns work as well? I wonder if the speed of the xc9536 is important, pictured is the 7.5ns version, will a 5ns, 10ns or 15ns work as well?

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By: Massimiliano https://www.nightfallcrew.com/18/11/2009/xilink-cpld-xc9536-replacement-pla-for-commodore-64/comment-page-1/#comment-15720 Massimiliano Thu, 06 Jun 2013 14:25:37 +0000 http://www.nightfallcrew.com/?p=2680#comment-15720 Ciao! mi piace lo stampatino nelle foto dell'articolo, è in vendita? dove/quanto/come? Grazie! P.S. Una PROM NON è una PLA! Ciao!
mi piace lo stampatino nelle foto dell’articolo, è in vendita? dove/quanto/come?

Grazie!

P.S.
Una PROM NON è una PLA!

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By: xAD / nIGHTFALL https://www.nightfallcrew.com/18/11/2009/xilink-cpld-xc9536-replacement-pla-for-commodore-64/comment-page-1/#comment-13977 xAD / nIGHTFALL Sat, 27 Apr 2013 20:22:08 +0000 http://www.nightfallcrew.com/?p=2680#comment-13977 <a href="#comment-13964" rel="nofollow">@Chris Vasquez </a> The best PLA replacement is here: http://www.manosoft.it @Chris Vasquez

The best PLA replacement is here: http://www.manosoft.it

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By: Chris Vasquez https://www.nightfallcrew.com/18/11/2009/xilink-cpld-xc9536-replacement-pla-for-commodore-64/comment-page-1/#comment-13964 Chris Vasquez Sat, 27 Apr 2013 18:24:07 +0000 http://www.nightfallcrew.com/?p=2680#comment-13964 I suspect my PLA is bad in my 250425. I get power, screen black. Is there a chance that I would fry this replacement PLA if I swap and turn it on? And, if it works, are there known issues with scene demos or games not functioning as expected? Thanks! Chris I suspect my PLA is bad in my 250425. I get power, screen black. Is there a chance that I would fry this replacement PLA if I swap and turn it on? And, if it works, are there known issues with scene demos or games not functioning as expected?

Thanks!

Chris

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By: xAD / nIGHTFALL https://www.nightfallcrew.com/18/11/2009/xilink-cpld-xc9536-replacement-pla-for-commodore-64/comment-page-1/#comment-8568 xAD / nIGHTFALL Wed, 13 Feb 2013 10:58:20 +0000 http://www.nightfallcrew.com/?p=2680#comment-8568 <a href="#comment-8565" rel="nofollow">@Jason </a> Hi , i don't have the code, but a good place to try is this: http://www.fpgaarcade.com/parts.htm http://www.fpgaarcade.com/c64_customs.html @Jason

Hi , i don’t have the code, but a good place to try is this:

http://www.fpgaarcade.com/parts.htm
http://www.fpgaarcade.com/c64_customs.html

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By: Jason https://www.nightfallcrew.com/18/11/2009/xilink-cpld-xc9536-replacement-pla-for-commodore-64/comment-page-1/#comment-8565 Jason Wed, 13 Feb 2013 01:06:58 +0000 http://www.nightfallcrew.com/?p=2680#comment-8565 Do you have the Xilinx code dump for this? Do you have the Xilinx code dump for this?

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By: xAD / nIGHTFALL https://www.nightfallcrew.com/18/11/2009/xilink-cpld-xc9536-replacement-pla-for-commodore-64/comment-page-1/#comment-7559 xAD / nIGHTFALL Tue, 27 Nov 2012 22:58:58 +0000 http://www.nightfallcrew.com/?p=2680#comment-7559 Ciao Lorenzo, Il PLA Clone per riparare il Commodore 64 (vecchio modello) e l'SX64 lo puoi trovare qui: http://www.manosoft.it Ciao Lorenzo,

Il PLA Clone per riparare il Commodore 64 (vecchio modello) e l’SX64 lo puoi trovare qui:

http://www.manosoft.it

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By: Lorenzo https://www.nightfallcrew.com/18/11/2009/xilink-cpld-xc9536-replacement-pla-for-commodore-64/comment-page-1/#comment-7558 Lorenzo Tue, 27 Nov 2012 22:52:27 +0000 http://www.nightfallcrew.com/?p=2680#comment-7558 i want know if is possible buy it please tell me ok bye thanks i want know if is possible buy it please tell me ok bye thanks

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By: xAD / nIGHTFALL https://www.nightfallcrew.com/18/11/2009/xilink-cpld-xc9536-replacement-pla-for-commodore-64/comment-page-1/#comment-1397 xAD / nIGHTFALL Fri, 20 Aug 2010 19:36:05 +0000 http://www.nightfallcrew.com/?p=2680#comment-1397 <a href="#comment-1396" rel="nofollow">@Paulo </a> The Only (and easy) way is buy a new Commodore 64C via Ebay (10$-25$) @Paulo

The Only (and easy) way is buy a new Commodore 64C via Ebay (10$-25$)

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By: Paulo https://www.nightfallcrew.com/18/11/2009/xilink-cpld-xc9536-replacement-pla-for-commodore-64/comment-page-1/#comment-1396 Paulo Fri, 20 Aug 2010 15:05:25 +0000 http://www.nightfallcrew.com/?p=2680#comment-1396 OK! Do You know where I can buy one for the version of my board? Obrigado! ;) OK!
Do You know where I can buy one for the version of my board?
Obrigado! ;)

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By: xAD / nIGHTFALL https://www.nightfallcrew.com/18/11/2009/xilink-cpld-xc9536-replacement-pla-for-commodore-64/comment-page-1/#comment-1378 xAD / nIGHTFALL Thu, 12 Aug 2010 07:41:50 +0000 http://www.nightfallcrew.com/?p=2680#comment-1378 <a href="#comment-1376" rel="nofollow">@Paulo </a> hi Paulo, if you have a Commodore C64C the PLA chip is different, you can't use this one. @Paulo

hi Paulo, if you have a Commodore C64C the PLA chip is different, you can’t use this one.

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By: Paulo https://www.nightfallcrew.com/18/11/2009/xilink-cpld-xc9536-replacement-pla-for-commodore-64/comment-page-1/#comment-1376 Paulo Wed, 11 Aug 2010 23:02:38 +0000 http://www.nightfallcrew.com/?p=2680#comment-1376 I have a C64c damaged and I think this chip is malfunctioning. My board is PCB ASSY No. 250469 / 25311 Rev.3 Where can I buy one? Thanks I have a C64c damaged and I think this chip is malfunctioning.
My board is PCB ASSY No. 250469 / 25311 Rev.3
Where can I buy one?
Thanks

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